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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by Beige » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:34 pm

If the SoS is not the place for ambient noise thread, what is?
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by asatiir » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:07 pm

I use to get into this drama a lot, not only in social media, but even among my friends. Now, I just can't be assed. People will complain and will continue to complain even if there's nothing to complain about.
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by Angry Jedi » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:15 pm

asatiir wrote:I use to get into this drama a lot, not only in social media, but even among my friends. Now, I just can't be assed. People will complain and will continue to complain even if there's nothing to complain about.


Yours is not an uncommon story. This is the trouble: a lot of the drama is over things worth getting angry about, but it happens so frequently, with such aggression and venom and ultimately with nothing worthwhile ever being done that it just becomes an endless cycle of meaningless noise. That ultimately drives people away, and makes the echo chamber become more and more insular, excluding people who don't conform and reinforcing their own opinions.
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by asatiir » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:38 pm

Angry Jedi wrote:
asatiir wrote:I use to get into this drama a lot, not only in social media, but even among my friends. Now, I just can't be assed. People will complain and will continue to complain even if there's nothing to complain about.


Yours is not an uncommon story. This is the trouble: a lot of the drama is over things worth getting angry about, but it happens so frequently, with such aggression and venom and ultimately with nothing worthwhile ever being done that it just becomes an endless cycle of meaningless noise. That ultimately drives people away, and makes the echo chamber become more and more insular, excluding people who don't conform and reinforcing their own opinions.


Yes, but even if you just try to correct them, they just won't listen and start treating you as if you're arguing for the sake of arguing, you might as well just leave them to burn each other out.

edit: I just realized what this was about (my goodness do I need to read what goes on more...), absolutely sickening, but I repeat to say that fight hard as you can against it and words will fall on deaf ears. It's maddening how venomous certain groups are in the internet but you can't change something unless they are willing to understand by themselves.
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by BusyZombieLord » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:37 pm

I have learned to tune out the tone of internet drama. My day job consists of digging information out of peoples social media profiles. When I use twitter or facebook it is usually only to interact with the few people I regularly have contact online with. The more I do with my job the less I care about what people on the internet have to say. I spend most of my day looking at peoples political affiliated comments, crazy retweets and likes.

Social media is a useful tool. I have made friends, contacts and gathered news faster than I could any other way. Unfortunately like everything in life, a few people shit all over everything. People talk about anonymity being the issue but I actually don't think that is the problem. I see many of the same trolls and jerks without anonymity say plenty of horrible stuff on the internet. I think the issue stems from 24 hour news networks, over marketing of products, abundant commercialism of everything.

Of course people will harass others on the internet. Our media and news does it all day. Political fighting on channel A, channel B has been running anti-gun ads all month, and forget channel C that is just reality tv at its worse. We are surrounded by awful role models. When we see them get away with it everyone thinks why not me too.

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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by Teryn » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:58 am

Wish I could give the dumb parts of Internet a collective smack upside the head or something. :P Sad part is that it probably wouldn't do much good.
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by ek6891 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:21 am

Anyone see the #gamergate thing that started on Twitter over the weekend as a sort of result of all the recent venom?
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by Teryn » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:21 am

Emily King wrote:Anyone see the #gamergate thing that started on Twitter over the weekend as a sort of result of all the recent venom?

A little bit, but by the time I saw more of it, it was coupled with #notyourshield. I just don't know what to do about all of this aside from be more wary of what anyone but a person I trust says about a game.

Maybe forums like this and (as others have suggested) fan-made review sites are the solution?
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Re: Dumb Internet drama

by ek6891 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:25 am

Teryn wrote:Maybe forums like this and (as others have suggested) fan-made review sites are the solution?


A lot of smaller sites by fans already exist, persuading industry PR (holds the keys to review copies, interviews) to parley with them on better grounds needs to happen.
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